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Dave @ Building Bull City
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eastofdowntown
Where did TBJ get the specs for this? I’m blocked by paywall. Seems the Four Points website has different info... https://fourpointsllc.com/durham/
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Durham_Transplant
Perhaps the website info is dated? Assume TBJ has some direct info because they have a rendering but I similarly don’t pay so can’t read the article.

Agree with Dave that this will be a huge change for that part of the city. Will be tons of new residents in the area with this project, Foster on the Park nearing completion and the condo (?) project on the other side of Liberty Warehouse appearing to be underway.

Understand this isn’t the best timing to start a new project (or maybe it is in some ways) but we desperately need new dining/retail/entertainment options downtown as these new residents start to flow in.
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Dave @ Building Bull City
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The article says that this information was from public documents filed to the city. I am trying to get my hands on those documents as well, but it is a manual process right now (they changed systems and you can't just search for site plans, currently - so I have to submit a request).

That said - if I were the betting type, I would put my money on the website and the current submittal being at least somewhat different from the final product. Something this size will surely go through an iterative process and since TBJ reported it before Four Points created a press release, who knows how finalized the current plan is.
mjp
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mjp
Honestly pretty surprised a project this big (at least by Durham standards) is being announced right now but maybe they feel pretty confident that by the time it comes online, there will be plentiful demand. Maybe they're also leaning into the potential migration from big expensive cities to smaller cheaper cities.

Maybe they're also seeing the cost drivers moving in the right direction to get started and go out to bid. In my sector (water/wastewater), we're seeing materials and labor costs moving in the right direction to start projects. The main issue is financing, although I don't get the impression it's as hard to get as it was in 2009.

I'll admit, it's a little bittersweet seeing the transformation of this neighborhood. When I first got here in 2011, the whole block was such a refreshing and innovative use of old industrial space and had a feel that has survived surprisingly well in my opinion, in spite of (or maybe because of) the new developments nearby. I worry that this will result in the Geer/Rigsbee corridor becoming something very sterile and corporate but I suppose it will bring a lot of opportunity to our city.
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Gerry Conley
Recently saw a chart which forecast Durham as being a highly-desired place to live by people who don't want to live in a large city any longer.  Durham was not just in the running - it was far above other cities in the "study".  This was in connection with the present and future pandemics (which are forecast as well).  Our education, jobs, government, and quality of life, plus low density were primary movers in the decision making.  These 2 buildings, in that area kind of defeat these "ideals".  For myself, I hate to see the Geer Garden at the foot of these lumbering hulks.  
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Dave @ Building Bull City
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I am hopeful that as downtown grows:

1. Durham realizes that it needs to fix the loop to promote urbanism and connect these two parts of the city together.

2. Other parts of the city grow incrementally as well, like Burch Ave, Lakewood, East Durham, Old Five Points, etc and become great destinations in their own right. It really hasn't been all that long since the Rigsbee/Foster area has been interesting. Fullsteam only opened around 10 years ago, and I don't believe there was much in the area before that. I am hopeful that while this neighborhood may grow and change into something different, it generates momentum that allows for multiple NEW neighborhoods to take the funky/adaptive reuse baton.
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Gerry Conley
I'd also like to see other areas become the focus for gatherings as Fullsteam and Motorco have been.  The Scrap Exchange area in Lakewood looked promising last year.  The bar/restaurant that opened in that area was very popular with families on the weekend, but there wasn't enough business otherwise, I guess, and it closed.  SE keeps coming up with new ideas, so we'll see what happens.

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 7:05 PM Dave @ Building Bull City [via Building Bull City Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:
I am hopeful that as downtown grows:

1. Durham realizes that it needs to fix the loop to promote urbanism and connect these two parts of the city together.

2. Other parts of the city grow incrementally as well, like Burch Ave, Lakewood, East Durham, Old Five Points, etc and become great destinations in their own right. It really hasn't been all that long since the Rigsbee/Foster area has been interesting. Fullsteam only opened around 10 years ago, and I don't believe there was much in the area before that. I am hopeful that while this neighborhood may grow and change into something different, it generates momentum that allows for multiple NEW neighborhoods to take the funky/adaptive reuse baton.


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I was pleasantly surprised to see a development of this size near downtown Durham...I'll be interested to see the timeline of when they hope to get this started...